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Rockettman
Co-pilot
posted 03-16-2003 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rockettman     Edit/Delete Message
I am a new Private Pilot and have had no experience with Clearance Delivery. I know it is my responsibility to know what it is and what it's there for. Can anyone explain this a little? Bradley

Mooney Man
Captain
posted 03-16-2003 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney Man   Click Here to Email Mooney Man     Edit/Delete Message
For VFR purposes, the only time that you are concerned with Clearance Delivery is when you are flying out of a large airport with a control tower. Here's how it's done: 1. Listen to the ATIS broadcast. It will tell you the frequency to contact for clearance delivery. 2. Contact clearance delivery and tell them where you are parked and where you are flying to. They will give you a transponder squawk code and a departure frequency. 3. Contact ground control and tell them that you have your clearance and are ready to taxi. 4. Contact tower when ready to take off. 5. Shortly after take off, tower will tell you to contact departure. 6. When you leave the airport's air space, departure will tell you "frequency change approved, squawk VFR."

For IFR purposes, an entirely different procedure applies, but I assume that an IFR Clearance Delivery is outside the scope of your question.

Rockettman
Co-pilot
posted 03-19-2003 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rockettman     Edit/Delete Message
Thank You thats exactly what I was looking for. Bradley

Steves36
Co-pilot
posted 05-31-2003 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steves36   Click Here to Email Steves36     Edit/Delete Message
If you're flying out of a Class-C (or B, for that mattter) airport, you just call up clearance delivery after getting the atis and give them the usual 3-W routine -- who you are, where you are, and what you want to do:
"Santa Barbara Clearance, Cessna 123XY, with bravo, vfr to the northeast at 5500".
They'll come back with something like this:
"Cessna 3XY, Santa Barbara Clearance, fly runway heading until 1000 feet [MSL is implied here], then proceed on course. Maintain at or below 2500 until advised, departure frequency will be 120.55, squawk 4003, contact ground 121.8 when ready to taxi"

There may be a lot of stuff to copy, but if you know what to expect, it'll be easier to understand. Basicly, you're copying a watered-down IFR clearance, and they always have the following components, always in the following order:
Clearance Limit
Route
Altitude
Frequency
Transponder

The acronym to remember this being CRAFT. You won't have a clearance limit (that's strictly an IFR thing), so maybe you better make it RAFT (like in life raft).

A trick to copying clearances is that they all follow the same pattern:
Clearance Limit, Route, Altitude, Frequency, Transponder. The acronym to remember this is CRAFT (for a VFR clearance out of a Class C airport, you won't have a clearance limit, but the other parts will still be there in the right order). What I like to do when copying a clearance is to write on a piece of paper:
C
R
A
F
T

Just like that down the left-hand margin. Then, as the clearance is read to me, I fill in the blanks. You can write it out in full, or use shorthand, or whatever, as long as you can figure out what you wrote. In your case, I'd end up with something that looked like:
C
R rwy hdg
A =< 2000
F xxx.xx
T yyyy

After my departure I'm handed off to Santa Barbara departure and then to Socal most the time.
Now I usually fly out of Van Nuys airport (Very Busy)class D. If I'm going to the south/north/west I don't need to file a Clearance. Actually if I'm flying to the east I don't either, but 2 min's after departure I enter Burbank class C space so it just make life easier to take the 2 min's to get one so BUR know I'm coming and I'm handed off right away.
Hope this give you a good idea about it.
Steve

fvultee
Co-pilot
posted 06-29-2003 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fvultee   Click Here to Email fvultee     Edit/Delete Message
Regarding the last reply... I don't think you usually specify what altitude you'll be flying when requesting clearance. They usually are stepping people up and down in altitude as they enter and exit the airspace, therefore they'll probably give you an initial climb to altitude before allowing you to resume onav.

My personal experience anyways.

du3995
Co-pilot
posted 02-05-2004 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for du3995   Click Here to Email du3995     Edit/Delete Message
I fly at Daytona Beach Int'l which is one of the busiest class C airports in the world and when I contact Clearance on 119.3 all I say is "Cessna XXXXXX with information XXXXXX, request flight following to XXXXXX or request VFR clearance to XXXXXXXX at ALTITUDE.

And they will reply with with my clearance consisting of something like "Cessna XXXXXX cleared to XXXXXXXXX at ALTITUDE (usually less than requested because Depature will vector you until "cleared to desired ALT")departure frequency XXXXX, squawk XXXXXXX.

Then just read that back to them and go ahead and set your transponder code and dep freq and contact ground point-9er. Tower will tell you to fly runway heading or some other heading after climb-out and then they will contact you and tell you to contact Daytona Departure.

All times are CT(US)

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